Rumors of DRE enlightenment by consolidation
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Do you support the governor’s proposal that the DRE be absorbed into the DCA?
- Yes (54%, 169 Votes)
- No (46%, 145 Votes)
Total Voters: 314
California governor Jerry Brown has proposed the consolidation of the Department of Real Estate (DRE) into a bureau within the Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA), as outlined in his January 2012 budget proposal. In order to cut administrative costs and encourage efficiency, the DRE and other licensing departments would be absorbed into the DCA. The DCA exists primarily to license and oversee California’s professionals in all industries.
Other California departments involved in the consolidation proposal include the Office of Real Estate Appraisers (OREA) and the Structural Pest Control Board.
first tuesday take: The governor’s proposal would eliminate administrative redundancies and, for the DRE management, do more than just change the name on the door. The current real estate licensing scheme would not be diminished, but enhanced.
A change in management will likely improve the standards of conduct currently sanctioned but inadequately enforced by the DRE.
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My concern is that NMLS was set up for the purpose of collecting data and collecting large fees. DRE is a duplication for MLO’s SAVE MONEY Governor Brown.
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Do not agree with First Tuesday’s position. There is Far Too much bureaucracy as it is. Oversite should come from the private sector.Liberalism is the disease. and this is why first tuesday only considers liberals (excludes GOP) to be “real people”! Less is more! the whole system is batched. with over reaching social programs.and Over protectionism. Citizens need to bare more resposibilities for there well being. It is not the Taxpayers who should pay for their ignorance.
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I also disagree with first tuesday. The problem is honesty, a course cannot teach someone to be honest. Its the knd of thing you have or you don’t have.
It has always struck me as a violation of segregation of duties to have mortgage lending administrated by a real estate sales department.
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Realtors should want less government intervention NOT more…you will be cutting your own throats down the line. More Federal intervention will only handicap you at a local level. You would think you have already learned that lesson.
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if the suggestion is that the education requirements are inadequate then i can ONLY agree. if the suggestion is that a LARGER less targeted bureaucracy is needed…ARE YOU GUYS RETARDED?
Brown has moved to conceive an Office of Business Oversight…AN ENTIRELY NEW REGULATORY BODY. the same hacks that brought you the CARB, the same dopes that have foisted AB 32 on us, the same retards that have us on the hook for a train from fresno to bakersfield…
YEAH, LET’S DO EVEN MORE TO DRIVE BUSINESSES OUT OF CALIFORNIA. I am leaving…you guys can have it.
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I agree with you Mike … the ideas that Brown comes up with only help Unions and add to the to the government labor force needed to cover all these different departments. My goal is to sell a ton of short sales even the million dollar mansion short sales and move to the Island of Fiji.
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The concerns raised are very valid, but real solutions are elusive.
Consolidation makes sense, although the nicer, lower level people usually get hurt disproportionately. It also does not, in itself, change anything other than the budget.
Any scheme that would further chain new agents to brokers will probably further institutionalize some of the practices we don’t like in the industry. The opportunity for an agent to strike out on his own as a broker (after passing the exam) is one of the few constraints on the existing unhealthy consolidation of power among big brokers.
There is plenty of education, and good education, available. (Guys, you provide the best there is!). All that needs to be done is for enforcement to focus on the more serious offenses and revoke more often, instead of suspend or warn. Ever hear of a big broker with a bad deed that gets a “stay” so that the inhouse agents can keep working? I have.
Find a way to resolve that, and kick the broker out of the business. Things would change fast.
That all said, I don’t think brokers and agents are among the terribly guilty in the crash, but I do believe it’s our responsibility to ensure people qualify for fixed loans before we sell them houses. The market will be healthier as a result (someday).
I salute you, my brethren.
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i’m right behind you tom. i think your business plan is a good one. i am in the process of licensing myself in oregon and hawaii. i have properties in both states already and have started the porting of my activities.
rob, your compliments are appreciated but inaccurate, the education requirement to sit for a license exam is LAUGHABLE! a two week correspondence course and a 70% rate on questions that a dullard could answer and you are licensed and in business! toss a few bucks to the assn. of realtors…who take all comers…and you have the appearance of a legitimate businessman. fantastic.
anyone suggesting that there will be less state employees after a “consolidation” has not been paying attention for the last few years…the state only adds public sector jobs…it’s what we do
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Mike, you have a point. I was referring more to the broker license exam.
But are we saying that green agents do a lot of damage, or that there are just too many?
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More government… More Fee’s, More gridlock!
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rob, yes, i am saying that and also that STUPID and INCOMPETENT agents are too easily able to get a license. they won’t always be green but will always be unqualified and will do much damage until they wash out. i am saying also that the continuing education req’s are too rudimentary to be meaningful. i’ve been through the cont/ed cycle many times by now and have been generally surprised by the low quality of the materials, first tuesday excluded. their stuff is much better and seems like they keep it updated.
the fact is that many persons go into real estate that are not qualified to sell shoes. we’ve all seen contracts written up with dozens of misspellings, inconsistent terms, incomplete phrases, missing numbers, faulty arithmetic, and on and on. the crap that passes for work product is appalling.
your earlier remark that brokers get treated easy to preserve their agents livelihood explains something for me…i’ve seen it! i am generally against regulation of all kinds, but if the state is going to pretend they do so, then let’s get meaningful barriers to entry so as to encourage capability…otherwise let’s stop fooling ourselves and certainly let’s not rejigger the regulators…what’s the point?
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I agree with you Mike, mostly, but have arrived at a place where I want continuing education to be quality, but not to take much of my time and certainly not as a hurdle now that I’ve been “in” since 1988.
In short, I want fewer and better educators (like First Tuesday) but I want less of it. I didn’t get in the field to support a cottage industry, an mls and a gov’t dept. Education cannot replace enforcement. I mean fraud enforcement, not one piece of paper missing.
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I would agree to a 1 year apprentice program for new licensee, salesperson or broker if they haven’t been a salesperson. I would agree to a AA DEGREE IN REAL ESTATE for a broker, but a BA in philosophy is BS for a qualification standard. I have met to many incompetent brokers with 4 year or better degrees and still can’t figure out how they passed the exam.
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someone else took the Broker Exam for them. This is happening far too much!!! I choose to remain ananymous to protect myself
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